Why are there hostilities between the Zcash and Monero communities?

Also published at: Substack

Aaron Day asks What is the source of conflict between the Monero and Zcash communities?

First, let me state upfront my personal biases.

To date, I think that the technical trade-offs the Monero team made have worked better to protect the privacy of users than the trade-offs made by the Zcash team.

However, I'm glad that the Zcash project exists, and I wish them great success. I think their hearts are in the right place, and they've corrected a number of the initial downsides of Zcash over time. (IMO, the only major downside to Zcash now is the lack of privacy by default.)

IMO, we need multiple approaches to protecting user privacy, as privacy coins are a new technology and it's impossible to know a priori which technology offers the best trade-offs.

It's only by trying different strategies and observing their outcomes over time that we can learn what works.

In addition, I think that it's important to have multiple tech stacks so that users can switch to other privacy coins if critical flaws are found in a given technology.

That said, both Monero and Zcash are competing for similar markets. Many people aren't very diplomatic when expressing their disagreement, and this has resulted in hostility and distrust on both sides. I hope that this will dissipate over time, and that both projects will work side by side as friendly competitors.

Here are some of the reasons I've preferred Monero to Zcash to date (and the source of some of the hostility that some in the Monero community have expressed toward Zcash):

Zooko responded

And that was when I learned that I write threads, but people use tweets. And they’ve been using that one tweet (not the thread that I wrote, which doesn’t say that) ever since. If there’s anybody left who reads threads:

Matthew Green--a significant contributor to Zcash’s cryptography-- has also spoken favorably of backdooring cryptocurrencies on behalf of law enforcement:

“Green says that he and his fellow researchers are not interested in facilitating criminal activity with Zerocoin. “Zerocoin would give you this incredible privacy guarantee, then we could add on some features which let the police, for instance, to be able to track money laundering. A back door.” The paper is due to be presented at the IEEE Symposium on Security & Privacy in Oakland, California, in May.”

While I don’t think Zcash is currently backdoored, those comments definitely contributed to the historical suspicion of the Zcash team's motives.

Law enforcement has secretly backdoored a number of nominal privacy protecting tools in the past:

Very few people have the technical chops to evaluate the code/cryptography of Zcash. So they have to rely on signals that they can evaluate.

It's similar to how people judge restaurants. Most restaurant guests aren't allowed into the kitchen, and can't really evaluate the procedures of the cooking staff even if they were allowed.

But guests can tell if the bathroom is dirty or not. If you find a restaurant's bathroom is dirty, does that mean that the kitchen is also dirty? No. But does it set off red flags if the bathroom is poorly maintained.

Even the suggestion that it was desirable to be able to trace criminal transactions is a "dirty bathroom".

As many people rely on private currencies to conduct currently "criminal" transactions, Zcash’s comments reduced trust.

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